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Robert's Rules in Real Life

Do we have to obey the mayor?

Thursday, April 26, 2012

After a dozen years in this business, it seems to me that questions of authority are some of the hardest to resolve.

Over and over I find city councils, boards of directors, and other governing boards struggling with the question, “Who’s in charge here, anyway?” If a group understands certain fundamental principles, it becomes much easier to resolve those tensions and move forward effectively.

During a recent consultation, this sentence from a set of “council rules and procedures” made my hair stand on end:

“All persons present at a meeting must obey the mayor’s orders.”

This rule is profoundly wrong. It may look legitimate, but it isn’t. The mayor, when running a meeting of the city council, is the presiding officer, not a dictator. The presiding officer runs the meeting as the servant of the members. The correct rule is similar to the one cited above, but has a subtle and essential difference:

“All persons present at a meeting must obey the legitimate orders of the presiding officer.”

The legitimate orders of the presiding officer are those issued in accordance with the rules and procedures adopted by the group, to serve the group. And according to Robert’s Rules of Order and common parliamentary law, those orders are subject to appeal by any two members of the group. For example, if the presiding officer declares that someone is speaking off topic and must stop forthwith, the member can say “I appeal.” If another member says “second,” then the group itself will vote to decide whether the member may continue.

Why don’t people know this? Why do councilmembers, county commissioners, directors of special districts and nonprofit board members allow the mayor, the chair or the president to ride roughshod over the group, acting as if he or she were the final authority?

We have lost the common understanding of meeting procedure that grew up in this country when America was alive with associations, astonishing the Frenchman de Tocqueville and English authors who toured the continent. We are used to the image of the “captain of industry,” the hard-charging boss who carries everyone in her wake. We want to be nice and “get along,” and it may seem safer to keep our heads down, letting a bully or an autocrat rule the roost without a challenge.

Members of our community, unite! Elected officials, citizens appointed to commissions and committees, long-suffering volunteers, seize your rights! Repeat after me, THE GROUP IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY. Yes, we have to obey the mayor when the mayor is enforcing the rules we chose, but when the mayor goes off-course or runs amok, he or she must obey US.

Ann G. Macfarlane, PRP

(c) Jurassic Parliament 2012. All rights reserved.

Functioning without a head?

Thursday, February 10, 2011

One of the trainings Jurassic Parliament presented this year was for nine sharp students at a community college, who constitute a student government without a head. There are directors for administration, for academic affairs, for clubs, etc. but no president, no single person who is “in charge.” Each member will take it in turn to chair a meeting, so that each student has three chances to do so during the year.

It’s an interesting model, but the curmudgeon in me feels skeptical. How well can an organization function without a head? Perhaps, in this instance, the advisor or faculty member carries the burden of arranging the schedule, reminding the secretary to finish the minutes, making sure the agenda is posted, and taking care of all those little details that are essential to the functioning of any leadership group.

As I hope the minutes make clear, we had a good time:

  • Motion to require pterodactyls to park on the roof of dormitory for safety reasons – approved
  • Motion to build a sports complex with 4 football fields, 3 baseball/softball fields, bowling alley, golf course including driving range and miniature golf, skateboard park – approved
  • Motion to build an electrified perimeter fence to protect students from drunken woolly mammoths – defeated
  • Motion to build moat for same purpose – defeated

The students were engaged, sharp, and knowledgeable. I wager they’ll do just fine this year, but I’m curious about how their unusual governmental structure functions in practice.

Ann G. Macfarlane, PRP

(c) Jurassic Parliament 2011. All rights reserved.

Functioning without a head?

Thursday, February 10, 2011

One of the trainings Jurassic Parliament presented this year was for nine sharp students at a community college, who constitute a student government without a head. There are directors for administration, for academic affairs, for clubs, etc. but no president, no single person who is “in charge.” Each member will take it in turn to chair a meeting, so that each student has three chances to do so during the year.

It’s an interesting model, but the curmudgeon in me feels skeptical. How well can an organization function without a head? Perhaps, in this instance, the advisor or faculty member carries the burden of arranging the schedule, reminding the secretary to finish the minutes, making sure the agenda is posted, and taking care of all those little details that are essential to the functioning of any leadership group.

As I hope the minutes make clear, we had a good time:

  • Motion to require pterodactyls to park on the roof of dormitory for safety reasons – approved
  • Motion to build a sports complex with 4 football fields, 3 baseball/softball fields, bowling alley, golf course including driving range and miniature golf, skateboard park – approved
  • Motion to build an electrified perimeter fence to protect students from drunken woolly mammoths – defeated
  • Motion to build moat for same purpose – defeated

The students were engaged, sharp, and knowledgeable. I wager they’ll do just fine this year, but I’m curious about how their unusual governmental structure functions in practice.

Ann G. Macfarlane, PRP

(c) Jurassic Parliament 2011. All rights reserved.


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