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Do gadflies have the right to speak before the vote is taken?

Thursday, December 01, 2011

Tuesday’s training session brought many questions. For example, if  an eager (not to say obnoxious) citizen gives his comment, and then raises his hand before the vote, does he have the right to speak again?

For members of the Association of California Water Agencies Joint Powers Insurance Authority, it is the Ralph M. Brown Act that determines the answer to this question. Section 54954.3(a) begins, “Every agenda for regular meetings shall provide an opportunity for members of the public to directly address the legislative body on any item of interest to the public, before or during the legislative body’s consideration of the item, that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body…” Reading this clause as a lay person and not an attorney, I would think that “an opportunity” means “one opportunity.” If the agenda includes a designated period, and a member of the public speaks, he’s had his chance. The council is not obliged to listen to him again before voting - although it may choose to do so, by majority vote, if it wishes.

The Brown Act further allows legislative bodies to adopt regulations limiting the total amount of time allocated for public testimony on particular issues and for each individual speaker. That’s a darn good thing. It is not easy to enlist capable and dedicated citizens to give their time to the special districts, commissions, councils and committees that make our web of governance hum. Providing for some kind of reasonable balance in time allotted to public input versus time spent in actual deliberation seems essential.

The key point that we urge on all elected and appointed officials is to distinguish between getting the public input necessary to make good decisions, and holding the council discussion that leads to making the decision itself. Public input is vital, but it is not the same as deliberation – when the members of the body discuss the question, weigh its different aspects, and then decide. Allowing the public to speak during the council discussion period confuses people about who has the actual authority, and makes it harder for the body to do its work. We say, let the gadfly have his full allotted time, but no more than that.

Our Tip Sheet “Running Successful Public Comment Sessions at Council Meetings” offers a host of suggestions for councils, commissions, committees and other bodies. It’s a great starting point – and do be sure to consult with your attorney, to make sure that the guidelines you adopt conform to your state’s law and regulations.

Ann G. Macfarlane, PRP

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You're Invited to our Online Housewarming Party

Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Those who know us well appreciate our passion for making Robert’s Rules work well for everyone, not just parliamentarians.  To that end, we’ve recently concluded a thorough renovation of this website.

In appreciation of your visit, we are offering a housewarming party favor. When you check out, use our special discount and type in PARTY. You’ll save 20% on all your purchases through December 16, 2011.

We’ve also widely expanded our content library. This labor of love not only delivers a more intuitive experience for our guests, but also provides access to a comprehensive set of resources designed to demystify Robert’s Rules and enable you to easily apply its basic principles in your own home, or at least in your meetings.

When you explore you will find:

  • Articles providing insightful nuggets on Robert’s Rules
  • Tip Sheets for use during sessions calling for Robert’s Rules of Order
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  • Money-saving Bundles collecting great resources in one package
  • General information you can come back to time and again, as needed

We hope you visit and enjoy what we’ve built. Our architect and builders are all open to hearing your opinions, so please let us know what you think.

We look forward to seeing you.

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City clerk commemorated for her knowledge, discretion, impartiality and humor

Monday, June 06, 2011

The passing of former Seattle City Council Clerk Theresa Dunbar was noted in a detailed obituary published on Saturday, June 4, 2011. The Seattle Times described the significant role that the late Ms. Dunbar played in Seattle government. “Both sides of any political squabble trusted her…She really transcended any kind of politics in the city.”

This story highlights yet again the importance of the clerk, often mistakenly seen as a lowly functionary , to our democratic system and our society.

We extend our condolences to Ms. Dunbar’s family on their loss.

Ann G. Macfarlane, PRP

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